“It isn’t the mountains ahead to climb that wear you out; it’s the pebble in your shoe.” - Muhammad Ali
“God is at home; it is we who have gone out for a walk.” - Meister Eckhart
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Mohandas Ghandi
“Solitude is a silent storm that breaks down all our dead branches.” - Kahlil Gibran
“If you are irritated by every rub, how will you become polished?” - Rumi
“The best of [individuals are] like water;
Water benefits all things
And does not compete with them.
It dwells in (the lowly) places that all disdain,
Wherein it comes near to the Tao.
In [thier] dwelling, (the [Wise]) love the (lowly) earth;
In [their] heart, [they] love what is profound;
In [their] relations with others, [they] love kindness;
In [their] words, [they] love sincerity;
In government, [they] love peace;
In [their] business affairs, [they] love ability;
In [their] actions, [they] love choosing the right time.
It is because [they] do not contend
That [they] are without reproach.”
- Lao Tse, Tae Teh Ching
(as cited in Edward F. Edinger, Anatomy of the Psyche: Alchemical Symbolism in Psychotherapy, Page 77)
“Your doubt can become a good quality if you ‘train’ it. It must become ‘knowing,’ it must become criticism. Ask it, whenever it wants to spoil something for you, ‘why’ something is ugly, demand proofs from it, test it, and you will find it perhaps bewildered and embarrassed, perhaps also protesting. But don’t give in, insist on arguments, and act in this way, attentive and persistent, every single time, and the day will come when instead of being a destroyer, it will become one of your best workers - perhaps the most intelligent of all the ones that are building your life.” – Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (as cited in Joan Chodorow, Jung on Active Imagination, Page)
“Autobiography in Five Short Chapters
Chapter One
I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I fall in.
I am lost . . . . I am helpless.
It isn't my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.
Chapter Two
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can’t believe I am in this same place.
But, it isn’t my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.
Chapter Three
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in . . . It’s a habit . . . but,
my eyes are open.
I know where I am.
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.
Chapter Four
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.
Chapter Five
I walk down another street.”
- Portia Nelson, There’s a Hole in My Sidewalk: The Romance of Self Discovery, Page
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow [individual]; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Ernest Hemingway
“Conviction easily turns into self-defense and is seduced into rigidity, and this is inimical to life. The test of a firm conviction is its elasticity and flexibility; like every other exalted truth it thrives best on the admission of its errors.” – Carl G. Jung, The Practice of Psychotherapy: Essays on the Transference and Other Subjects (Collected Works, Vol. 16), Page 79, Paragraph 180
“[It is the nature of creative forces that they] have you on the strong and you dance to their whistling, to their melody. But inasmuch as you say these creative forces are in Nietzsche or in me or anywhere else, you cause an inflation, because [individuals do] not possess creative powers, [they are] possessed by them. That is the truth. If [they allow themselves] to be thoroughly possessed by them [creative forces] without questioning, without looking at them, there is no inflation, but the moment he splits off, when [they think], I am the fellow, an inflation follows…. It happens automatically that you become conscious of yourself and then you are gone, it is as if you had touched a high tension wire. Nietzsche, of course, could not help looking at the thing and then he was overwhelmed with resentments, because the creative powers steal your time, sap your strength, and what is the result? A book perhaps. But where is your personal life? All gone. Therefore, such people feel so terribly cheated, they mind it, and everybody ought to kneel down before them in order to make up for that which has been stolen by God. The creative forces have taken it out of them, and therefore they would like to personify them, imagine that they are Shiva, in order to have the delight of being creative. But if you know you are creative and enjoy being creative, you will be crucified afterwards because anybody identified with God will be dismembered. An old father of the church, the Bishop Synesius, said that the spiritus phantasticus, our creative spirit, can penetrate the depths or the heights of the universe like God, or like a great demon, but on account of that he will also have to undergo the divine punishment, and that would be the dismemberment of Dionysus or the crucifixion of Christ.” – Carl G. Jung, Nietzsche's Zarathustra: Notes of the Seminar Given in 1934 - 1939, (Vol. 1), Page 67 (as cited in Edward F. Edinger, Anatomy of the Psyche: Alchemical Symbolism in Psychotherapy, Page 64)
“The writer who possesses the creative gift owns something of which [they are] not always master - something that, at times, strangely wills and works for itself. [They] may lay down rules and devise principles, and to rules and principles it will perhaps for years lie in subjugation; and then, haply without any warning of revolt, there comes a time when it will no longer consent to ‘harrow the valleys, or be bound with a band in the furrow’ - when it ‘laughs at the multitude of the city, and regards not the crying of the driver’ - when, refusing absolutely to make ropes out of sea-sand any longer, it sets to work on statue hewing, and when you have a Pluto or a Jove, a Tisiphone or a Psyche, a Mermaid or a Madonna, as Fate or Inspiration direct. Be the work grim or glorious, dread or divine, you have little choice left but quiescent adoption. As for you - the nominal artist - your share in it has been to work passively under dictates you neither delivered nor could question - that would not be uttered at your prayer, nor suppressed nor changed at your caprice. If the result be attractive the World will praise you, who little deserve praise; if it be repulsive, the same World will blame you, who almost as little deserve blame.” – Charlotte Brontë, Preface to Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë [her younger sister] (as cited in Barbara Hannah, Striving Towards Wholeness, Pages 195-196)
“If play expires in itself without creating anything durable and vital, it is only play, but in the other case it is called creative work. Out of a playful movement of elements whose interrelations are not immediately apparent, patterns arise which an observant and critical intellect can only evaluate afterwards. The creation of something new is not accomplished by the intellect but by the play instinct acting from inner necessity. The creative mind plays with the object it loves.” – Carl G. Jung, Psychological Types (Collected Works, Vol. 6), Pages 122-123, Paragraph 197
“[An individual’s] maturity: that is to have rediscovered the seriousness [they] possessed as a child at play.” - Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil
“I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.” - Duke Ellington
“But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?” - Mark Twain
“Real wisdom is not the knowledge of everything, but the knowledge of which things in life are necessary, which are less necessary, and which are completely unnecessary to know.
Among the most necessary knowledge is the knowledge of how to live well, that is, how to produce the least possible evil and the greatest possible goodness in one's life. At the present, people study useless sciences, but forget to study this, the most important knowledge.” - Jean Jacques Rousseau
“Life is a train of moods like a string of beads; and as we pass through them they prove to be many colored lenses, which paint the world their own hue, and each shows us only what lies in its own focus.” - R.W. Emerson
“Many people make-believe what they experience. Few are made to believe by their experience.” - R.D. Laing, The Politics of Experience and the Bird of Paradise (as cited in Jeremy R. Carrette, “The Language of Archetypes: A Conspiracy in Psychological Theory”, Harvest: International Journal for Jungian Studies, 1994, Vol. 40, Page)
“The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.” - Pablo Picasso
“Trust that which gives you meaning and accept it as your guide.” – Unknown
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck
Interview with actor Jeremy Piven
Do people expect you to be Ari [Gold, character from HBO’s Entourage (TV show)] when they meet you?:
I think they do and they’re very disappointed. They’re like, “Who is this guy?” They usually ask me what’s wrong and why I’m so calm (laughter). It’s interesting, because I think I’ve been lucky enough to spend seven months a year in the UK and the cultures are so different. They immediately see you and address you as an actor. And I think in the States, for whatever reason, it might be an interesting study, and I don’t know what the variable for this is, but maybe being in their living room for eight years, they associate you immediately with that character. Then when they meet you and they see that you’re not that character, I think it’s a little confusing. I’ve had people literally just circle my face with their fingers and go, “What is this? Who is this?” And they think that I’m kidding. And I get the strangest looks.
Gate A-4
Wandering around the Albuquerque Airport Terminal, after learning my flight had been detained four hours, I heard an announcement: “If anyone in the vicinity of Gate 4-A understands any Arabic, please come to the gate immediately.” Well – one pauses these days. Gate 4-A was my own gate. I went there. An older woman in full traditional Palestinian embroidered dress, just like my grandma wore, was crumpled to the floor, wailing loudly. “Help,” said the Flight Service Person. “Talk to her. What is her problem? We told her the flight was going to be late and she did this.” I stooped to put my arm around the woman and spoke to her haltingly. “Shu dow-a, Shu-bid-uck Habibti? Stani schway, Min fadlick, Shu-bit-se-wee?” The minute she heard any words she knew, however poorly used, she stopped crying. She thought the flight had been cancelled entirely. She needed to be in El Paso for major medical treatment the next day. I said, “You’re fine, you’ll get there, who is picking you up? Let’s call him.” We called her son and I spoke with him in English. I told him I would stay with his mother till we got on the plane and would ride next to her.
She talked to him. Then we called her other sons just for fun. Then we called my dad and he and she spoke for a while in Arabic and found out of course they had ten shared friends. Then I thought just for the heck of it why not call some Palestinian poets I know and let them chat with her? This all took up about two hours. She was laughing a lot by then. Telling about her life, patting my knee, answering questions. She had pulled a sack of homemade mamool cookies – little powdered sugar crumbly mounds stuffed with dates and nuts – out of her bag – and was offering them to all the women at the gate. To my amazement, not a single woman declined one. It was like a sacrament. The traveler from Argentina, the mom from California, the lovely woman from Laredo – we were all covered with the same powdered sugar. And smiling. There is no better cookie. And then the airline broke out the free beverages from huge coolers and two little girls from our flight ran around serving us all apple juice and they were covered with powdered sugar too. And I noticed my new best friend – by now we were holding hands – had a potted plant poking out of her bag, some medicinal thing, with green furry leaves. Such an old country traveling tradition. Always carry a plant. Always stay rooted to somewhere. And I looked around that gate of late and weary ones and thought, this is the world I want to live in. The shared world. Not a single person in this gate – once the crying of confusion stopped – seemed apprehensive about any other person. They took the cookies. I wanted to hug all those other women too. This can still happen anywhere. Not everything is lost. – Naomi Shihab Nye
“It seems to be true, particularly in middle America, that those most militant about using up fossil fuels, don't actually believe in fossils.” - Ricky Gervais
“Your task is not to seek love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” – apparently not Rumi and actually: Helen Schucman & William Thetford, "The Forgiveness of Illusions", A Course in Miracles, Page 315 (as cited on the bottom of the Wikiquotes page on Rumi)
“If you love a flower, don't pick it up because if you pick it up it dies and ceases to be what you love. If you love a flower, let it be - love is not about possession, love is about appreciation.” - Osho
“Respect was invented to cover up the empty place where love should be.” – Leo Toystoy, Anna Karenina
“She [in reference to his mother] mistook over-protection for love.” – Ivan Pavlov (as cited in History and Systems in Psychology...)
“Eros is forever young, has no history and even wipes out history, or creates its own, its ‘love-story’.” – James Hillman, “Anima”, Spring: A Journal of Archetype and Culture, 1973, Page 102
"[I]t was in love I was created and in love is how I hope I die." - Paolo Nutini, Coming Up Easy [song]
"Oh, love isn't there to make us happy. I believe it exists to show us how much we can endure." - Hermann Hesse
"'One loves only when in what is pursued there is something inaccessible, something not possessed.' M. Proust, The Prisoner (as cited in Carotenuto)
“We begin to love [another] by depositing our soul near [them], part by part. We split our person and the beloved [...] who earlier was neutral and unimportant to us begins to don our other I; [they become our] double.” – Strindberg (as cited in Gaston Bachelard, “Reveries on Reverie (’Animus’ – ‘Anima’)”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Page 80)
"She [some female] is perceived by the one [a young lover] as vulnerable and in need of affection, and by the other [a mature lover] as inscrutable and elusive. This confirms the analytical assumption that the other above and beyond his own reality assumes the countenance of our fantasies, becoming the shadow onto which we project the internal image of our sexual counterpart." - Aldo Carotenuto, Rites and Myths of Seduction, Page 11
“[B]y ‘soul’ I mean the imaginative possibility in our natures, the experiencing through reflective speculation, dream, image and fantasy – that mode which recognizes all realities as primarily symbolic or metaphorical...that unknown component, which makes meaning possible, turns events into experiences, is communicated in love, [and] has religious concern [deriving from its special relation with death]” – James Hillman, Re-Visioning Psychology, Page xvi
“When it [the soul] breathes through [an individual’s] intellect, it is genius; when it breathes through [their] will, it is virtue; when it flows through [their] affection, it is love.” – R.W. Emerson
“What we hold close in our imaginal world are not just images and ideas but living bits of soul; when they are spoken, a bit of soul is carried with them. When we tell our tales [fantasies, dreams, etc.], we give away our souls. The shame we feel is less about the content of fantasy than it is that there is fantasy at all, because the revelation of imagination is the revelation of the uncontrollable, spontaneous spirit, an immortal, divine part of the soul, the Memoria Dei. Thus, the shame we feel refers to a sacrilege: the revelation of fantasies expose the divine [the transpersonal, that is things outside ourselves, etc.], which implies that our fantasies are alien because they are not ours.” – James Hillman, The Myth of Analysis, Page 182
"Touch [an individual's] heart you get [their affection]. Touch [an individual's] mind you get [their] interest. Touch [an individual's] soul and you get passion beyond your wildest dreams." - Graham R. White
“How simple it is to discover one’s soul at the end of reverie! Reverie puts us in the state of a soul being born.” – Gaston Bachelard, “Introduction”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Page 15
“Idleness is the beginning of all psychology. What? Could it be that psychology is - a vice?” - Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols
“Psychological revelation, does not like traditional theological revelation, stop in a certain historical period, with a certain historical figure.” - Jeremy R. Carrette, “The Language of Archetypes: A Conspiracy in Psychological Theory”, Harvest: International Journal for Jungian Studies, 1994, Vol. 40, Page 187
“The domain of psychology does not guarantee that its inhabitants are particularly psychological. The shingle over the door, ‘psychologist’, unfortunately attests to nothing about the soul of the practitioner.” – James Hillman, “Anima”, Spring: A Journal of Archetype and Culture, 1973, Page 117
“We study Freud and Jung, psychological masters, not in order to become Freudians or Jungians, but to become psychological.” – James Hillman, Re-Visioning Psychology
“Cold be heart and hand and bone
Cold be travelers far from home
They do not see what lies ahead
When the sun has failed and the moon is dead”
– Gollum, J.R.R. Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings
“The cat neglected becomes the unconscious tiger.” – James Hillman, “Inferior Feeling and Negative Feelings”, Lectures on Jung’s Typology, Page 112
“[R]eflection is a spiritual act that runs counter to the natural process; an act whereby we stop, call something to mind, form a picture, and take up a relation to and come to terms with what we have seen. It should, therefore, be understood as an act of becoming conscious.” – Carl G. Jung, Psychology and Religion: West and East (Collected Works, Vol. 11), Page 158
“I distinguish reserve from shyness, because I imagine shyness would please if it knew how; whereas reserve is indifferent whether it pleases or not.” – Elizabeth C. Gaskell, The Life of Charlotte Bronte, Page 99 (as cited in Barbara Hannah, Striving Towards Wholeness, Page 192)
“In the world a man lives his own age; in solitude, in all the ages.” – Étienne Pivert de Senancour or William Matthews (Internet can't decide)
“We want to create. We long to create. We can transform a very bleak situation into a place of joy and color. When your environment is beautiful, it gives you dignity. All this is nurtured from working together. Seeds. Planting seeds of beauty helps the tree of community with all its branches to grow.” – Lily Yeh (as quoted in Terry Tempest Williams, Finding Beauty in a Broken World, Page 270)
“Irony gives us, at little expense, the impression that we are experienced psychologists. On the other hand, we end up believing only those cases worthy of our attention where, through our irony, we are first of all assured of our ‘objectivity.’” – Gaston Bachelard, “Reveries on Reverie (’Animus’ – ‘Anima’)”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Page 69
[T]he best proof of the specificity of the book [that is, the quality of its permanence in reality contrasted with the fleeting and intangible character of the imagination] is that it is at once a reality of the virtual and a virtuality of the real. Reading a novel, we are placed in another life where we suffer, hope and sympathize, but just the same with the complex impression that our anguish remains under the domination of our liberty, that our anguish is not radical. Any anguishing book can, therefore, provide a technique for the reduction of anguish. An anguishing book offers anguished people a homeopathy of anguish. But this homeopathy works above all during a meditative reading, one which is stabilized by literary interest. Then two levels of the psychism [psychological factor of the human being, mental processes, psychic nature, etc.] separate, the reader participates at the two levels, and when he becomes quite conscious of the aesthetics of anguish, he is quite close to discovering facticity. For anguish is factitious: we are made to breathe easy.” – Gaston Bachelard, “Introduction”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Pages 24-25
“Practical medicine is and has always been an art, and the same is true of practical analysis. True art is creation, and creation is beyond all theories. That is why I say to any beginner: Learn your theories as well as you can, but put them aside when you touch the miracle of the living soul. Not theories but your own creative individuality alone must decide.” – Carl G. Jung, Contributions to Analytical Psychology
“The content of a neurosis can never be established by a single examination, or even by several. It manifests itself only in the course of treatment. Hence the paradox that the true psychological diagnosis becomes apparent only at the end. [... I]t will profit the psychotherapist to know as little as possible about specific diagnoses. It is enough if he is reasonably sure of the differential diagnosis between organic and psychic, and if he knows what a genuine melancholy is and what it can mean. Generally speaking, the less the psychotherapist knows in advance, the better the chances for the treatment. Nothing is more deleterious than a routine understanding of everything.” – Carl G. Jung, “Medicine and Psychotherapy”, The Practice of Psychotherapy: Essays on the Psychology of the Transference and Other Subjects (Collected Works, Vol. 16), Page 87, Paragraph 197
“The question shouldn’t be how to cure but how to live.” – Joseph Conrad, “Chapter 20”, Lord Jim
“A real relationship is two imperfect beings refusing to give up on each other.” – Unknown
"The capacity for friendship is God's way of apologizing for our families." - Jay McInerney
"The stages of a dysfunctional relationship are: 1) Fun, 2) Fun with problems, and 3) Problems." - Tracy McMillan
“If the process of discovery contains the rhythm of both the ‘scientific’ and the ‘imaginal,’ and if the fleeting nature of imaginal perceptions is trusted without being reified, then two people experience their relationship as a vessel containing both of them. Both people attempting to glimpse the mystery of their relationship are, alternatively, scientists and alchemists, perceiving on the one hand with objectivity and on the other hand with the vision of the imagination. When two people acknowledge that each is both rational and mad, they are prepared to enter the ‘third area’ that has its own mystery and that is far larger than both of them together." - Nathan Schwartz-Salant, The Mystery of Human Relationship: Alchemy and the Transformation of Self, Page 223
“Writing fiction becomes a way to go deep inside yourself and illuminate precisely the stuff you don't want to see or let anyone else see, and this stuff usually turns out (paradoxically) to be precisely the stuff all writers and readers everywhere share and respond to, feel. Fiction becomes a weird way to countenance yourself and to tell the truth instead of being a way to escape yourself or present yourself in a way you figure you will be maximally likable. This process is complicated and confusing and scary, and also hard work, but it turns out to be the best fun there is.” – David Foster Wallace
“Drama has to do with circumstance, tragedy has to do with individual choice.” – David Mamet
“Literature dwindles to a mere chronicle of circumstances . . . unless it is constantly flooded with the passions and beliefs of ancient times. [...] I should have added as an alternative that the supernatural may at any moment create new myths, but I was timid.” – W.B. Yeats (as cited in Robert Larsen, The Mythic Imagination: The Quest for Meaning Through Personal Mythology. Pages 10-11)
“Doesn’t reverie ramify the sentence which has been begun? A word is a bud attempting to become a twig. How can one not dream while writing? It is the pen which dreams. The blank page gives the right to dream.” – Gaston Bachelard, “Introduction”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Page 17
"For in its innermost depths youth is lonelier than old age." - Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl
“The hardest part about growing up is letting go of what you were used to, and moving on with something you are not.” – Unknown
"If there is anything that we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is something that could better be changed in ourselves." - Carl G. Jung, The Development of Personality (Collected Works, Vol. 17), Page
"The greatest thing a father can do for his daughter is to love her mother." - Elaine S. Dalton
“The little world of childhood with its familiar surroundings is a model of the greater world. The more intensively the family has stamped its character upon the child, the more it will tend to feel and see its earlier miniature world again in the bigger world of adult life. Naturally this is not a conscious, intellectual process. - Carl G. Jung, “The Theory of Psychoanalysis”, Freud and Psychoanalysis (Collected Works, Vol. 4)
“By certain of its traits, childhood lasts all through life. It returns to animate broad sections of adult life. First, childhood never leaves its nocturnal retreats [dreams]. Within us, a child sometimes comes to watch over us in our sleep. But in the waking life itself, when reverie works on our history [that is, when we relive long gone experiences in memory], the childhood which is within us brings us its benefits. One needs, and sometimes it is very good, to live with the child which [we have] been. From such living [one] achieves a consciousness of roots, and the entire tree of [their] being takes comfort from it.” – Gaston Bachelard, “Introduction”, Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Page 20
“We are living in a culture entirely hypnotized by the illusion of time, in which the so-called present moment is felt as nothing but an infinitesimal hairline between an all-powerfully causative past and an absorbingly important future. We have no present. Our consciousness is almost completely preoccupied with memory and expectation. We do not realize that there never was, is, nor will be any other experience than present experience. We are therefore out of touch with reality. We confuse the world as talked about, described, and measured with the world which actually is. We are sick with a fascination for the useful tools of names and numbers, of symbols, signs, conceptions and ideas.” – Alan Watts
“Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love.” – Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
"Out beyond the world of ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about language, ideas, even the phrase each other doesn't make any sense." - Rumi
“What benefits new books bring us! I would like a basket full of books telling the youth of images which fall from heaven for me every day. This desire is natural. This prodigy is easy. For, up there, in heaven, isn’t paradise an immense library?
But it is not sufficient to receive; one must welcome. One must, say the pedagogue and the dietician in the same voice, ‘assimilate.’ In order to do that, we are advised not to read too fast and to be careful not to swallow too large a bite. We are told to divide each difficulty into as many parts as possible, the better to solve them. Yes, chew well, drink a little at a time, savor poems line by line. All these precepts are well and good. But one precept orders them. One first needs a good desire to eat, drink and read. One must want to read a lot, read more, always read.
Thus, in the morning, before the books piled high on my table, to the god of reading, I say my prayer of the devouring reader: ‘Give us this day our daily hunger . . .’” - Gaston Bachelard, ”Introduction”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood, Language, and the Cosmos, Pages 25-26
“Reveries of idealization develop, not by letting oneself be taken in by memories, but by constantly dreaming the values of a being whom one would love. And that is the way a great dreamer dreams [their] double. [Their] magnified double sustains [them].” – Gaston Bachelard, “Reveries on Reverie: Animus – Anima”, The Poetics of Reverie: Childhood Language and the Cosmos, Page 88
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